I work in a hospital and there is a lot of pressure to get the flu shot and the H1N1 vaccine. Since they are incubated in eggs, this is a big no-no for me and it has raised a lot of comments at work. I was just curious about responses from you guys. Thanks
I guess i should also add that I try not to use any OTC medicines or prescriptions and try to use natural remedies whenever I can. I've only gotten the flu shot twice (both times before I went vegan) and both times I have gotten sick.
My husband is facing the same pressure. He is not vegan, but we both try to avoid unnecessary medicine.
My personal opinion is that if you have a healthy body you don't need the vaccines. A lot of people don't have that healthy body so I guess it is a really personal choice. I just tell people it is not for me, that usually works.
There's a whole slew of non-vegan ingredients. Eggs, squalene (shark liver oil), and gelatin are those I remember. Mercury, formaldehyde--some of the more lethal ingredients. I don't know if this is true but I heard that there is lead in the vaccine. I don't think I'll be taking the vaccine (aside from it being the most non-vegan thing) because I have a lot of drug sensitivities (not the usual nausea and fatigue either!) and if my body loathes me when I take the simplest antibiotic, I hardly think my body will be thrilled with mercury and formaldehyde coursing through it. Although some vaccines are very effective, there are also vaccines that are linked to neurological disorders. I am trying to find as much unbiased information so that I can confirm my decision. I think it's important for all of us to do as much research as possible so that we don't blindly accept or blindly refuse.
As a front line healthcare provider, I received the H1N1 vaccine and find your thoughts interesting. I hear your concerns and had not thought about the vaccine containing non-vegan ingredients. That being said, the vaccine may not save us all this year but the hope would be to provide herd immunity throughout the community. Influenza kills people every year and H1N1 is just a new strain of influenza. With it being so new, most of us do not have any immunity for it and therefore it is causing many to get really sick and some to die. I feel that the vaccine is important to our health as a society and encourage receiving it if you have it offered.
Out of curiosity, how do you feel about the immunizations that infants are recommended to receive?
Julie- Just curious, is swine flu as bad as everyone is saying? Of the people you seen get it, is it just another flu? Sometimes I feel that people are over reacting a bit. And when you stress, your body becomes weak. So, I hear all the hype, and then I start to worry and stress. But, I keep trying to remind myself, to relax, it's just another form of the flu and that' s it, right? Just wanted to get you professional opinion... Thanks, Nicole
When you look at the 1995 Chicken pox vaccine, children are not getting the chicken pox anymore but more older people are now getting shingles, this is only one example. The National Vaccine Information Center has both sides to the vaccine issues we are now facing. I simply believe that most vaccines are going to end up causing a super bug. Swine flu season is over in Australia and less people have died from the swine flu than malaria. Finland is refusing to pay for the vaccination insurance wise because it has ended up being less threatening than first supposed. I have been flu swabbing people that come into our Emergency Department in the hospital I work at since April. I have had people coughing and breathing in my face with each swab and there are about 10 people a day getting tested. I have not gotten sick and I attribute this a healthy lifestyle, working on keeping my stress at bay, hand washing and such things. Tamiflu is almost 99% uneffective when given by itself yet many ER doctors are prescribing this antibiotic alone. Dr Mercola is also an interesting resource if you are interested. If people are informed and make the decision to get their vaccinations, at least they have done their research. But think about all the people who down burgers and chicken with all the antibiotics pumped into them (70% of all antibiotics in this country go to farm animals) and then think of all the vaccinations people get routinely and then think wow, people are still getting sick. What type of viruses are out there? and how many got to this point because of us?
Nicole~ I understand exactly what you are saying and I agree with you to an extent. It has been pretty bad for the children and we recently had a pregnant woman die. It seems to be the people with underlying conditions that are getting it the worst. Otherwise, it is "just another flu." It is those people that I worry about the most.
Jess~love your comments. I don't find them preachy at all! I'd love to talk to you about this someday. I also work in an ER and have been swabbing everyone, almost too many in my opinion! Last weekend I had 4 out of 5 rooms with Droplet Isolation due to ILI. A main resource for our practices is the CDC guidelines. I'll check out Dr Mercola. I'm not familiar with him. As far as Tamiflu, it is an antiviral not an antibiotic. It does not rid of the virus. It just makes the symptoms less severe which can be helpful in the compromised person. Interesting thoughts about the antibiotics in meat. It definitely makes me not want to eat meat again! I'm afraid for the practices of prescribing antibiotics for every illness and when we try to explain that a person doesn't require antibiotics becuase it is a viral illness, the person generally is upset!
Natural News and Dr. Mercola's websites have lots of anti-vaccine info. I find it interesting and scary as hell as well. I have yet to read any stories about healthy people dying of swine flu?? Everything I read is about people with compromised immune systems. If anyone knows of any links or articles about a healthy person dying of the swine flu could you send it to me? I would really appreciate it! I want to get both sides of this but all I can find is articles of healthy people dying and becoming paralyzed from the vaccine not H1N1.