I get so much crap from so many people for being vegan. I try not to let it bother me, I know I'm healthier and I'm making a big positive impact on the world. I just posted something from the vegan socitey on my fb wall and this person that I haven't really had contact with or spoke to in years commented. This was the conversation:
idiot: you're an omnivore for a reason. why try to change nature?
Me: Our teeth are flat dear. I live a nice peaceful life now, trying my best to reduce the (needless) suffering of animals. The stuff I eat is healthier and tastier than any meat. Plus meat rotts in your digestive system for days before it passes. You asked! lol
Idiot: some of your teeth are flat, not all of them. if that were the case you would not be able to eat anything that required ripping and tearing. people suffer as well, are you doing anything for them? any food is not good for you in excessiv...e amounts. we are biologically not designed to eat the quantities of food we eat today. our body is actually pretty efficient in conserving and utilizing energy. healthier and tastier is purely subjective and has no basis in an argument like this. most animals on this planet eat other animals on this planet. humans are animals like any other. everything rots in your stomach while you digest it. whether you eat animal or plant, it was all living at sometime. the act of harvesting causes the once living plant to die and decay just the same. if you don't want to eat meat, that's your call. but don't put vegan-ism on a pedestal it doesn't belong on. and what you're speaking of is mostly red meat, but it doesn't rot for days, mearly hours as it gets passed through your system like everything else. slow on the beef, eat more fish, turkey, pork and chicken and you'll be fine
Jenn Dios Do you feel better now that you said all this? I don't think your very well educated on the matter. No single food choice has a farther reaching and more profoundly positive impact on our health, the enviroment, and all of life on earth than choosing vegan. So yeah it should be on a pedestal.
So I deleted him. I don't need this negitivity in my life. I had to share this with this forum. lol
Oh, I know your pain! I just had a similar conversation on my fb page... It started off more as a conversation about juice and kids... led to giving kids sugary foods.... then a bit about being vegan etc etc. I love how I always get slammed about eating healthy, and trying to raise my child the same way. And then someone post how we should be tolerant of and respect others. I know that I can be intolerant for sure.... but it so hard not to be when you have taken so much time to research and learn about being healthy, and you are talking to people who feed their kids sugar for breakfast.....
I don't get it either :( I was reading a thread on a Facebook page (against Monsanto) today. This woman had asked for advice regarding sources of non-GE meat substitutes as she'd discovered the products she was buying contained GE ingredients. For whatever reason, people started harping on the fact she was vegan and then questioning her use of meat-substitutes....one person actually had the nerve to question her ethics as a vegan!!!! So AFTER I cooled off...*rolls eyes* I posted and pointed out the fact that the lady had asked a specific question and what her (or anyone else's) choices are as per meat substitutes is nobody's business. If you eat meat and don't have advice, stay out of it, if you have advice-specific to her question, then answer... I couldn't get over the fact that people had actually questioned her ethics...!
When I first went vegan, my brother said to me, "there are lots of studies that show the vegan diet to be really unhealthy". I looked at him and said "I'd be interested in reading those studies. Can you send me the info?". He hasn't mentioned it again since. People just feel threatened. I think deep down everyone knows that eating animals in cruel. Our lifestyle choices forces them to think about this unpleasant fact, and it is upsetting. So, denial, denial, denial. I know. I was in denial for 38 years before I saw the light. Don't let it get to you. Keep up what you know to be true.
I would have deleted him too! What a jerk. I love how people think that they are experts in nutrition when they have done no research. Most vegans that I know have read extensively on nutrition and are far more educated than meat eaters. I hate how just because our culture has brought about meat-eating that people assume that it is natural for us to live this way. I can't believe that people can look at the dentition of a carnivore and think it is the same as ours. Once I point out that they wouldnt' be able to kill anything without a weapon or actually tear into flesh with just their teeth they shut up. Also, when I point out how animal agriculture uses the most water and most crops grown they shut up too realizing that there is more food to go around without animal consumption!
Oh, everyone just wants to find some way to defend however they are living their lives. Folks with unhealthy diets have to come up with something fictional to justify the animal carcasses, pus-laden cheese and milk, chemicals, hormones and fats that they choose to consume because "everyone else is eating this way". Newsflash: "everyone else" is making the wrong choice too. The idiot's comment about putting veganism "on a pedestal" should be enough to show you he feels his choices are inferior. Don't worry, you have planted a seed of doubt in his mind, whether he realizes it or not.
Dawn, I have to agree with you. I became vegetarian "temporarily" for health reasons and was sort of surprised by how much I like it and how much it suits me. Therefore, it stuck. I don't preach vegetarianism on anyone but some meat eaters sure like to preach at me! ha ha (a co-worker once said I got sick because I was no longer eating the right bacteria to protect myself. huh??? LOL) However, I have met some self righteous veg/vegans and they are tiresome to be around. Myself and a large portion of my close group of friends slowly moved toward vegetarianism all at our own speeds. I tribute this to the gentle ripple effect...live happily by example and others became curious and start asking the "right" questions and experimenting on their own. Push ideas down someone's throat...they'll just spit it right back up at you! ;p
I hope all the people that want to attack our choices go and see "Forks Over Knives" the first chance they get and keep an open mind and really listen to it. I wish they would all watch Food, Inc. and get an understanding of the environmental reasons and wake up to the way corporations and politics are controlling what we eat. There are just so many reasons to consider veg or vegan.
Those that argue all hang their hat on a few worn out, tired arguments. And like Kim said - they take it personally like an attack on them because deep down they can understand that eating animals isn't really the best choice. They think we are being self-righteous and that is so not the case.