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Interstitial Cystitis (IC) and a vegan diet

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jearpopsicle said #1 Mar 25, 2011 at 3:14pm

Hi everyone - This is my first post here. I was recently diagnosed with Interstitial Cystitis (IC) and am having trouble figuring out what to eat. My husband and I were 90% raw food eaters this past summer but have since relaxed into a vegetarian diet. Now that I have this diagnosis, I feel as if my list of acceptable foods to eat is severely limited. Here's a good list of the foods that can cause a bladder flare-up (which leads to frequent urination, pain, and pain with sex) http://www.ichelp.org/Page.aspx?pid=390 Some of the main culprits that cause discomfort and are really difficult for me are tomatoes, citrus fruits, strawberries and green tea. Not to mention anything made with soy: tofu, soy sauce, miso soup, tempeh, edamame, soybeans, shoyu etc etc. It makes it difficult to get protein and to have versatility. I would love to hear any advice that anyone has. It is very discouraging.

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Ronda Hodge said #2 Mar 27, 2011 at 12:47pm

I don't have any advice, but I just wanted to add some support for you. I have IC too, and I know it can be very frustrating. Are you taking Elmiron? My condition has improved immensely since I started taking it. I have very few flare-ups now as long as I take my meds and stay away from my food triggers--tomatoes and colas (caramel coloring). Hang in there!

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powerlifer said #3 Mar 29, 2011 at 6:16am

Being that IC is an inflammatory condition it would be wise on working to support the adrenal glands which are often the root cause of inflammatory diseases. If you need recommendations on herbs etc i will list.


Vegan diet rich in vitamin C and vitamin B5 will be a good start.


Supplementing with magnesium to relax the uretha is a good idea also.


http://www.amlaberry.co.uk

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bluestarsic27 said #4 Apr 8, 2011 at 5:58am

Hey! I have IC too!


I was diagnosed in 2009, but I have had it since 2007. Took a long time to get diagnosed. Here is what I have learned:


1. The IC elimination diet will be a good start but don't follow everything on there to a "T". Everyone is different. For example, my friend with IC can't have any chocolate while I can eat a ton without any problem. Then with tomatoes... exact opposite. I can't have them, she can.


2. The Interstitial Cystitis Association on facebook or on their regular web forum is a great place to meet others with IC who can help you find what will work best for you. There are thousands of us, many vegetarian and vegan too.


3. Do not take multivitamins because it will irritate your bladder big time. Eat veggies to get things like vitamin C and B5. (good call powerlifer, don't know how you knew that without having it!)


4. My personal experience with the diet list: I was told not to have tomato, kale, any fruit other than blueberry, watermelon and pears, no miso etc...That dairy and meat were ok... My outcome?? Well, I followed the diet and found that if I had most of the "OK" things, I would still flare if they had preservatives or were not fresh. I also found that dairy and meat made my flares worse.

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bluestarsic27 said #5 Apr 8, 2011 at 6:03am

I went to an alkaline cooking class (a private chef who is teaching Dr. Young's Alkaline Diet and combining it with The Kind Diet/Veganism) and I ate all the foods they had there... and I am talking tomatoes, lemon juice, lime juice, peppers, and onions all in just one of the dishes. I even had curry and salsa! I was so scared I would flare, especially after having been on the IC diet to a "T" for two years. (and even having been on it for two years I still flared all day and all night- even with way more water added to my diet). Guess what? No flare at all after eating any of what they prepared. Why? Because it was fresh, all organic, all non-processed and natural... I still flare occassionally, but only if I have processed or super acidic foods. In other words, as long as I take the time to eat right, I don't have a problem. It's when I reach for the processed tv dinners and pasta sauces that I do.

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bluestarsic27 said #6 Apr 8, 2011 at 6:13am

Oh and as far as the soy irritation, some have said it is because the soy they had was processed or low quality... but then again some women still flare from it.


Do you have a facebook? My friend BreAnn has the very same thing and she has a small group of other women who share that same issue with their IC. I could get you her info if you have a facebook, let me know :) BreAnn says she drinks coconut milk, almond milk, and rice milk instead of soy products.



Oh, and Ronda, how long have you been on Elmiron for? Almost everyone I have spoken to haven't been helped by it long term, and someone at the ICA was actually talking about how it isn't recreating the lining like it says it will. I am curious to know what worked for you?The combo I had been on: elmiron, elavil, pyridium, allegra, toviaz, detrol, bladder cocktail instillations (huge No-NO!), lidocaine, vicodin, and I forget the other one...


Honestly the only thing that has worked for me thus far is changing my diet to being natural and less acidic. And I also learned that some foods the IC diet calls acidic actually aren't because they become alkaline in the body (like lemon and lime juice). Once my body became more alkaline and less acidic, the pain eased and the flares were controllable. I think on the beginning our bodies are so acidic that until we rid our bodies of the bad acid, we flare.



Hope this helps :)


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bluestarsic27 said #7 Apr 8, 2011 at 6:14am

Oh, and try getting rid of yeast for awhile too. I forget why, but it was what the alkaline chef said about IC... too much yeast does something..

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bluestarsic27 said #8 Apr 8, 2011 at 6:16am

Wishing you the best!

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Justin Roberts said #9 Mar 13, 2012 at 8:22am

Hi, I'm Justin and I'm working with a team to let women with interstitial cysitis know about a clinical research study that is going on now. The study is looking into an investigational drug-device delivery system for IC to see if it is safe and effective in controlling the pain associated with the disorder. To learn more about this research study, you can visit the website at http://www.interstitialcystitisstudy.com/sns.htm.

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Kacie M said #10 Mar 13, 2012 at 10:38am

I have IC too and was on Elmiron for about 6 months, but my digestive system just couldn't handle it. Let's just say I could never be far from a restroom and had too many close calls. It did help with the IC pain, but it just wasn't worth it. I have gone vegan since but haven't tried changing my diet to try low oxalate foods because I felt like I couldn't eat anything. I know that certain drinks, like ice tea or soda or anything with citrus cause a lot of pain. I have tried elimination diets here and there and have not noticed a change. Other than that I just deal with it. I would love to know what you figure out!

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