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I've am in need of SERIOUS help. Only people who remember what MILK tastes like and serious comparisons. I drink milk in my coffee (1%) at home and 2% at starbucks. I do not like black coffee. I also will NOT give up coffee. I have gone to decaf and that's as far as I'm willing to go right now. I occasionally have cereal. Other than that, I don't drink milk or really eat a lot of cheese, etc.
SO, with that said what can I use as a substitute? A REAL substitute for my milk in my coffee. I'm not a fan of soy milk, especially the sugar filled ones that mask the horrible taste of the soy. I have just tried Rice Dream and Almond Breeze. Both unsweetened. On my quest to be healthy I don't want to add a bunch of sugar and chemicals into my diet.
So, the rice milk was ok...I can see cooking with it or maybe having it in oatmeal as it was sweet. But it was thin and watery and tasted like...well, like rice. It tasted like rice water from cooking.
The almond milk smelled great but tasted terrible. It also was thin and had a plasticy taste and bad aftertaste.
I have seen other milks to try, and I have heard that other brands have different tastes. i don't have the money to go and buy every single product out there. First, I need something for my coffee and then something I can put in cereal. I have seen soy creamer...is it ok? I just can't deal with the weird tastes and textures. I LOVE my coffee and need help getting off the milk.
Hey Jacqui, first of all you're never going to find something that tastes like cows milk so you may as well scratch that idea now. Many of these unfamiliar plant milks may taste odd, different initially - you may have to adjust your palate. Easier said than done? Well, remember we often have to taste things several (by that I don't mean once or twice - I'm talking up to fifteen or more) times before our palate acclimatizes to the taste. It's not about forcing yourself to like something - for me it's the equivalent of hating broccoli as a child (I didn't but many do) and loving it as an adult.
Now, if you're looking for something creamier etc. then try hemp milk or coconut milk (not the canned stuff used for cooking - the stuff that comes in a carton). You could also try oat milk. You may have to alter the milk, coffee ratio depending on how strong or weak you like it. I use about a quarter cup of milk to every cup of tea/coffee - by that I mean I fill the cup I'm using quarter full of milk and pour the tea/coffee on top. I also find it helps if you put the milk in first - my preference.
Also, you say that plant milk is more processed than cows milk. Think of the process cows milk has to go through before it ends up in you cereal not to mention the antibiotics, hormones etc. thare pumped into the cows producing it. I know what I'd rather have in my body. There is no way that cows milk is better for you than plant milk. Yes, it goes through a process and some of it contains sugars, so go easy on it, don't rely on it too much but it is absolutely a better choice than milk from an animal.
Also, think about why you're doing this. If it's for weightloss then milk is definitely a no no. If it's for compassionate reasons then remind yourself of the pain these animals are in day in, day out. The calves they have lost - that often go to slaughter and are sold for veal. If you drink milk you are supporting this.
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Hi Jacqui...Like Aine said, the coconut milk creamer is a pretty good tasting alternative. I used to need half and half in my coffee but I dont like the substitutes, so about 4 years ago I went to black coffee overnight. It was not easy at first. It took a few months and then I found that cream in my coffee didnt taste good and I actually preferred it black. Once in a blue moon I would treat myself to a skim latte, but then it took on a nasty taste to me. It was liberating too because I didnt have to worry about whether or not there was cream in the house.
Hi Jacqui
I have the same problem with my coffee.I love coffee and I have not given it up but I limit it to 1-2 cups a day and so when I have it ,I want to realy enjoy it.
I do not like it black either,what I have done is try a bunch of different flavored coffee's and I can tolerate those black,if they are full of flavor.My favorite is Green Mountain,they have an island coconut and blueberry that are very good.It does take time,I started drinking the flavored coffee with raw sugar and then decreased the amount of sugar until I didnt need it at all.
I do not like soy,I occasionally order a soy latte but it ends up being too much soy for me and I dont feel well after.I recently came across the new coffee creamers by so delicious coconut milk and they are very good,nothing at all like the soy creamers.They make french vanilla and hazlenut and both are good.
Just like Aine,I put the milk or creamer in first and then add the coffee,I think it makes it taste better like this as well.You can froth the milk of your choice at home and it makes it creamier ,just heat it up slowly in a pan on the stove and use a hand blender to froth it up a bit or purchase a frother,I have seen these around lately.
I use hemp or almond milk for cereal and I had to try quite a few brands and different alternatives until I found the ones I liked most.Tempt is my favorite hemp milk,So Delicious is my favorite coconut milk and I like Silk's almond milk.
Good luck,experiment,it took me awhile to find what I liked best.
Angel
nut milks are much better if you make them yourself. especially almond milk! it takes a little time at first but once you get used to it, its quick. you can look on youtube for how to make it. even walnut milk is pretty tasty! i dont make it often b/c my son has walnut/pecan allergies, but its pretty tasty in herbal teas! its the same recipe as almond milk you just substitute the almonds with walnuts. i use the recipe by cafe janae on youtube (she does local classes for whole/raw/vegan cooking here in slc ut). she does use raw local honey, but that can be subsituted. Good luck!
Hey Jacqui, I appreciate your honesty! My husband and I are pretty picky about milk replacements. My personal favorite is almond milk, but my husband prefers rice milk since he's allergic to almonds. However, for coffee and creamers I second Angel's call for the So Delicious coconut milk creamers! (We like Hazelnut.)
I hope this helps!
Almond milk is probabily the best option, however it is not all that healthy in large quantities. Commercially processed cereals and coffee are not heathy. Please consider dropping the caffiene and processed foods from your diet. Try learning how it feels when you drop these items from your diet for just one month.
Oils (vegetarian or not), fats, sugars, salt, caffiene and commercial food product additives are addictive and flavorful, but not very good for you.
I forgot to say that I don't really like coconut! i don't mind the chocolate coconut ice cream and a little in curry is ok..but otherwise i do not enjoy it at all...in fact i don't like some fake creamers (the flavored non dairy creamers) because I can taste the coconut oil in them.
I can handle the flavor of regular non dairy creamer - but there is still milk solids or whatever that means, plus all the extra chemicals and added sugar.
I guess I'll try the soy creamer and the hemp milk - i saw that at my local fresh and easy yesterday as well as the oat milk.
I do want to lose weight - plus the animals, that's the reason I'm a veggie...but my philosophy is that if the cows are taken care of and not harmed and there aren't hormones being used, then its not as bad as big dairy...but I don't want to get into a philosophical debate. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind and I don't like being preached at either..
My point is - i've been fat all my life and the only time my mom was successful at getting me skinny was when she took me off dairy. Back then, there wasn't alot of veggie foods and vegan options, so that also meant no ice cream, cake or cookies. SO, that also meant limited sugar intake. BUT, I do want to get off dairy to be healthier and hopefully it will help me lose weight.
Does the coconut creamers taste a lot like coconut? I'll give it try if its not too sweet - i don't like sweet coffee.
The hubs also dislikes coconut! He enjoys the Silk Soy Creamer so if you want, give that a try. But I don't know if he's as picky as you are about the creamer in his coffee. For example, he now takes his coffee (if at all) black where as he use to use the Silk Soy Creamer, but will still put ricemilk in tea.
Quick question, are you a meat eater going off dairy or a vegetarain going off dairy? I know you say you're veggie but that word means so many different things now a days, I just want to clarify. The only reason I ask is because you'll find the most significant weight loss when you cut out those animal fats, so your mom was right to cut out dairy.
I was a vegetarian for a long time and I used to believe the same you did about dairy and the animals. (But that literally meant from a local farm and not from the grocery store labeled "free range".) But I was surprised at how much better I felt when I was off dairy, then when I discovered how bad it is for your personal health, yikes. That changed things.
I hope you don't consider that preaching at all, I was just sharing my personal journey with it. My entire family is overweight and I'm the only (relatively) skinny one and I definitely attribute it to my eating habits.
The good news is I eat whatever I want (as long as it's vegan) and I have no problems, so I know you'll get there if you perservere. And the good news is Natur-a makes a great maple ice cream and so does So Delicious!
You're doing the right thing for yourself so don't give up!
I don't think anyone was being preachy, just presenting the facts. They're not pleasant, I agree, but it is the reality of the situation.
I don't think the coconut milk tastes overly coconutty and is certainly pretty neutral when mixed with tea or coffee. The only way you'll know is to try it for yourself. Hemp, on the other hand, does have quite a distinctive flavour. Oat milk may be the way to go for you but it isn't particularly creamy in my opinion. I'm sure you'll find something you like.
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