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Shellfish anyone?

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Nicole Champeau said #1 May 27, 2011 at 10:00pm

OK, so like most people on this site, I love animals and follow a vegetarian lifestyle so I don't contribute to cruelty. Of course, dairy and eggs, even though they're not flesh contribute to suffering in their own way, so they're out too. However, I have to say, I have a very hard time feeling compassionate towards anything that is considered shellfish. I understand that any harvesting of seafood have ramifications health/environment-wise, but from a strictly cruelty free point of veiw, I just don't have a problem eating shellfish. Bivalves like mussels and clams don't have central nervous systems, and crabs and lobsters a just sea bugs! I have no problems killing spiders and roaches that come in my house, and I really don't see a difference. What do you think?

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Andrea Kolwicz said #2 May 28, 2011 at 3:52am

I think every creature on this palnet, even plants, bugs, etc. have feelings and deserve respect! lobsters get boiled alive - I'm sure they feel the pain. And before that they are being kept on ice packs with their "hands" bound! It is absolutely perverse, if you ask me!


And just because you can not communicate with an animal, bug, etc. how can you tell that it can't feel, or think, or love?


When you open your heart and feel the spiritual aspect of everything, you know it.


Every creature is full of joy when it gets the chance to live it's destiny! so unless you'd eat meet/fish/seafood like a preditor animal, I personally think it's wrong!


But it's your choice! Luck on your journey!


Drea

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LisaJoan said #3 May 28, 2011 at 4:31am

Hi Nicole! I can sympethize with you, and here's why: My house is on the beach and my husband, occasionally, walks down to the ocean with his clamming rake and brings a few clams inside for us to eat with our salads for dinner. I do eat a plant based diet and no animal products, otherwise. I realize that some people would never do this for the exact same reason that I do not eat chicken or beef or eggs. I'm sure they'd say... so, if you lived across the street from a farm would you shoot a cow and drag it into the kitchen to eat with your salad? Well. Of course not.


I don't know. All I do know is, that, we respect our environment and we are not harvesting millions of fish, raping our land and ocean, and then shipping it half way across the continent. We are not plucking from the ocean for sport and tossing dead fish back into the waters, mindlessly or cruelly. I also know, that if we move from here, we won't be eating seafood because of the way its fished and harvested and packed and shipped.


With some the lines are gray, with others its very black and white! Good luck discovering what is right for you! :)

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Hazel said #4 May 28, 2011 at 8:36am

Fish have been shown to feel pain, why not shellfish? I think the question becomes - why do some people separate some living beings from others? Generally, most people will feel more compassion towards animals that are more similar to humans than others. The less obvious such similarities are, the less compassion many people have. Such is most likely the reasoning of those who drafted the US Animal Welfare Act for not including cold blooded animals in the Act. Birds/foul are given the least protection under animal protection laws, when they have been proven to be complex, social, feeling beings.


The spider/roach thing - partially there are safety and health concerns with these types of things. We do kill black widows (and brown recluses, but they are rare here), as they are dangerous to both us and our pets, and they love to come out on our porches (and sometimes into our house) during the summer. Other spiders, we try to leave alone when we can as they are beneficial. Roaches - health issues are a concern, so sometimes measures have to be taken, but I wouldn't kill them cruelly - such as boiling them alive. Things like rats or mice that can become health issues - there are humane ways to get them out of your home.


Obviously we can't prevent all suffering and killing - we can never be sure we aren't killing ants, etc, when we are walking down the street or driving our car, but I think like Andrea, that we should show the respect and compassion we are able to in all practical ways (aside from the devastating environmental effects of commercial fishing as well as farm fishing).

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